Feb. 24, 2026

Death to Control, Resurrection into Freedom

Death to Control, Resurrection into Freedom
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Death to Control, Resurrection into Freedom

In this episode of The Death & Resurrection Doula Podcast, Laurel Nicholson shares the profoundly personal story behind the creation of her Christ-centered end-of-life doula training program.

Raised in a Christian home, Laurel quietly battled body image struggles, disordered eating, over-exercising, and an unrelenting drive for control that spanned decades and led to deep physical, emotional, and spiritual exhaustion. She found that no amount of affirmations, discipline, lifestyle change—or even marriage and motherhood—could bring lasting freedom. After reaching a breaking point in her early forties, Laurel experienced a profound turning toward the gospel. At the same time, witnessing her grandmother’s end-of-life struggles clarified a sobering truth: self-effort cannot heal the human heart, true transformation must come from outside ourselves through Christ alone.

Laurel describes her healing as a story of death and resurrection—death to control, self-reliance, and shame, and resurrection into freedom, surrender, and service. That personal redemption now shapes her vocational calling. In a culture where the “death positive” movement is largely secular, she believes Christians are called to accompany the dying with resurrection hope rooted firmly in Christ and in the promise of peace that surpasses all understanding.

(01:02) The Struggle with Control and Body Image
(05:40) The Gospel as True Freedom
(07:20) Death and Resurrection in My Own Story
(10:50) Resurrection Hope and End-of-Life Care
(14:00) Building a Faith-Based Training Community
(17:40) Serving the Dying with Confidence in Christ

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01:02:00 - The Struggle with Control and Body Image

05:40:00 - The Gospel as True Freedom

07:20:00 - Death and Resurrection in My Own Story

10:50:00 - Resurrection Hope and End-of-Life Care

14:00:00 - Building a Faith-Based Training Community

17:40:00 - Serving the Dying with Confidence in Christ

100:00:00.160 --> 00:00:01.420Hi, my name is Laurel Nicholson.200:00:01.800 --> 00:00:03.760I am the creator and the director of300:00:03.760 --> 00:00:06.540the Death and Resurrection Doula Training Program and400:00:06.540 --> 00:00:10.400Community, and I'm here to dive into my500:00:10.400 --> 00:00:11.620story a little bit more.600:00:12.180 --> 00:00:14.720What is it in my life that led700:00:14.720 --> 00:00:18.120me to create an end-of-life doula800:00:18.120 --> 00:00:20.000training program that is faith based?900:00:20.160 --> 00:00:22.500It's fully focused on Christ and Him crucified.1000:00:23.180 --> 00:00:25.700It is in an interesting time, the death1100:00:25.700 --> 00:00:29.380positive movement, a very secular and philosophical movement1200:00:29.380 --> 00:00:32.200reclaiming conversation around death.1300:00:32.300 --> 00:00:36.100It is time for Christians to have the1400:00:36.100 --> 00:00:39.600opportunity to answer God's call, to accompany the1500:00:39.600 --> 00:00:42.980dying, stand with them in resurrection hope, and1600:00:42.980 --> 00:00:44.980we must have a Christian training program to1700:00:44.980 --> 00:00:45.900be able to do that.1800:00:46.720 --> 00:00:48.800There's a story behind it.1900:00:48.980 --> 00:00:51.500It includes a story of death and resurrection.2000:00:52.080 --> 00:00:54.360That's why I named my program the Death2100:00:54.360 --> 00:00:56.360and Resurrection Doula Training Program.2200:00:57.020 --> 00:00:59.160And that story is about me.2300:00:59.340 --> 00:01:00.460There's other characters in it.2400:01:00.540 --> 00:01:01.540I'm going to share a little bit about2500:01:01.540 --> 00:01:01.940that.2600:01:02.260 --> 00:01:04.379But I am a believer.2700:01:04.820 --> 00:01:07.660I was raised in a Christian family and2800:01:07.660 --> 00:01:11.380spent a good part of my childhood in2900:01:11.380 --> 00:01:15.660Sunday school and Wednesday night church, Bible study3000:01:15.660 --> 00:01:17.300with peers from school.3100:01:17.800 --> 00:01:21.100But I still struggled in my faith, and3200:01:21.100 --> 00:01:23.540I struggled with sin.3300:01:23.760 --> 00:01:27.540I was about 15, and I plummeted from3400:01:27.540 --> 00:01:30.080a healthy weight as a 15-year-old3500:01:30.080 --> 00:01:32.280girl to a very unhealthy weight.3600:01:32.560 --> 00:01:35.380I was a track runner and had fast3700:01:35.380 --> 00:01:41.160times and ribbons from winning individual races and3800:01:41.160 --> 00:01:43.760relays, and all of that put a lot3900:01:43.760 --> 00:01:46.520of pressure on me to perform better.4000:01:47.160 --> 00:01:52.260And I fell into a pattern of low4100:01:52.260 --> 00:01:56.660-calorie eating, a lot of exercise, and body4200:01:56.660 --> 00:01:57.740image issues.4300:01:58.460 --> 00:01:59.760I'm going to talk a little bit about4400:01:59.760 --> 00:02:02.820that, you know, what my request from God4500:02:02.820 --> 00:02:05.880was for healing, how He did eventually heal4600:02:05.880 --> 00:02:10.340me, and why this story matters in creating4700:02:10.340 --> 00:02:12.780a Christian end-of-life doula training program.4800:02:12.940 --> 00:02:16.220From the very beginning of the struggle with4900:02:16.220 --> 00:02:20.960food intake, over-exercising, I knew I needed5000:02:20.960 --> 00:02:21.260healing.5100:02:21.520 --> 00:02:23.080It wasn't just, oh, this is a really5200:02:23.080 --> 00:02:23.720good idea.5300:02:24.600 --> 00:02:26.660Let's see how far I can take it.5400:02:27.000 --> 00:02:30.720No, there was anguish around it, and there5500:02:30.720 --> 00:02:36.060was anguish even before I really got deeply5600:02:36.060 --> 00:02:39.380involved in that behavior.5700:02:40.020 --> 00:02:43.920I just had anxiety and stress around things5800:02:43.920 --> 00:02:47.620to do with my body, probably even beginning5900:02:47.620 --> 00:02:49.040before the age of 15.6000:02:49.660 --> 00:02:51.580I had a journal, and I used to6100:02:51.580 --> 00:02:55.680write Scripture in it, and one of the6200:02:55.680 --> 00:02:59.720psalms I remember writing regularly was, you know,6300:02:59.780 --> 00:03:01.280you knew me before I was born.6400:03:01.520 --> 00:03:02.760You formed my inward parts.6500:03:03.140 --> 00:03:05.660And, you know, God knows that we are6600:03:05.660 --> 00:03:06.300His creation.6700:03:06.780 --> 00:03:08.680He has a plan for us, and He6800:03:08.680 --> 00:03:11.840has created us in the image of Himself.6900:03:12.480 --> 00:03:15.780But that's often, even for Christians, really hard7000:03:15.780 --> 00:03:18.840to understand, and it's hard to like ourselves.7100:03:19.520 --> 00:03:23.340It's hard to honor the body that God's7200:03:23.340 --> 00:03:25.680given us, and I took it to the7300:03:25.680 --> 00:03:26.780greatest extreme.7400:03:27.460 --> 00:03:29.940By the time I was in my mid7500:03:29.940 --> 00:03:34.100-30s, I had physically worn myself out, spiritually7600:03:34.100 --> 00:03:36.720worn myself out, emotionally worn myself out, and7700:03:36.720 --> 00:03:40.080it sent me into a pastor's office asking7800:03:40.080 --> 00:03:41.040for help.7900:03:42.540 --> 00:03:45.680Between the beginning of my journaling and prayer8000:03:45.680 --> 00:03:50.440and that moment, I had tried things other8100:03:50.440 --> 00:03:51.000than faith.8200:03:51.160 --> 00:03:53.640I had tried looking in the mirror and8300:03:53.640 --> 00:03:55.760speaking daily affirmations over my life.8400:03:56.660 --> 00:04:01.520I had tried strict diets and exercise regimens.8500:04:01.780 --> 00:04:03.600I even went as far to become a8600:04:03.600 --> 00:04:04.960raw vegan.8700:04:05.600 --> 00:04:07.200I spent many years at that.8800:04:07.820 --> 00:04:13.660Throughout my two pregnancies, I struggled with getting8900:04:13.660 --> 00:04:15.579enough, and it wore out my body.9000:04:16.079 --> 00:04:18.620Thankfully, my children were healthy, but it did9100:04:18.620 --> 00:04:20.220take a big toll on my body.9200:04:20.339 --> 00:04:22.220It took a toll on my marriage.9300:04:22.300 --> 00:04:24.240It took a toll on my relationships with9400:04:24.240 --> 00:04:27.060my family outside of my husband and children,9500:04:27.320 --> 00:04:28.460with my friends.9600:04:28.700 --> 00:04:30.800Exercise was at the top of my list9700:04:30.800 --> 00:04:32.980every day, and if you fit into that,9800:04:33.120 --> 00:04:35.840you easily fit into a relationship with me.9900:04:35.920 --> 00:04:38.000But if it got in my way, then10000:04:38.000 --> 00:04:39.500there was always tension.10100:04:41.060 --> 00:04:46.600But a little bit before I really wore10200:04:46.600 --> 00:04:49.880myself out, I had the opportunity to spend10300:04:49.880 --> 00:04:51.860time with my grandmother at the end of10400:04:51.860 --> 00:04:56.180her life, and she also struggled with body10500:04:56.180 --> 00:04:59.300image and with what she ate.10600:04:59.420 --> 00:05:02.040It never seemed to be the same extreme10700:05:02.040 --> 00:05:04.780that I had taken it to, but I10800:05:04.780 --> 00:05:08.640saw her still suffering from that in the10900:05:08.640 --> 00:05:11.800last couple weeks of her life, and it11000:05:11.800 --> 00:05:15.560taught me something that never was I going11100:05:15.560 --> 00:05:18.060to be able, through picking the right diet11200:05:18.060 --> 00:05:21.960regimen, picking the right friend group that supported11300:05:21.960 --> 00:05:24.800me, having children, none of these things that11400:05:24.800 --> 00:05:26.880are the things I was trying to do11500:05:26.880 --> 00:05:29.160to help myself get better, none of them11600:05:29.160 --> 00:05:30.840really made a difference.11700:05:31.140 --> 00:05:33.680I told myself that getting married was all11800:05:33.680 --> 00:05:35.420that I needed to do, and if I11900:05:35.420 --> 00:05:36.680can just get to this, then I won't12000:05:36.680 --> 00:05:37.480struggle with it anymore.12100:05:37.540 --> 00:05:38.800If I get to this, I won't struggle12200:05:38.800 --> 00:05:39.200anymore.12300:05:39.480 --> 00:05:43.580But it's just not true, and we have12400:05:43.580 --> 00:05:47.900to have something from the outside that heals12500:05:47.900 --> 00:05:50.920us and changes who we are, and that12600:05:50.920 --> 00:05:53.420thing from the outside is the gospel, and12700:05:53.420 --> 00:05:55.820it is given to us in Jesus Christ.12800:05:56.300 --> 00:05:59.200Although I heard the gospel as a child12900:05:59.200 --> 00:06:02.920and grew up around Christians, there was still13000:06:02.920 --> 00:06:04.840a time that God had appointed for me13100:06:04.840 --> 00:06:08.520to hear His message with fresh ears and13200:06:08.520 --> 00:06:11.820to heal me, and He did that in13300:06:11.820 --> 00:06:13.400my early 40s.13400:06:14.580 --> 00:06:18.120So, I really began to understand that there13500:06:18.120 --> 00:06:20.980is nothing within me that can change me,13600:06:21.500 --> 00:06:23.720and there was nothing within my grandmother that13700:06:23.720 --> 00:06:24.420could change her.13800:06:24.880 --> 00:06:26.940There's nothing within you that can change you.13900:06:27.040 --> 00:06:28.780It must come from the outside, and it14000:06:28.780 --> 00:06:31.980must be granted by the grace of God.14100:06:32.260 --> 00:06:34.800I spent a lot of years searching out14200:06:34.800 --> 00:06:41.220charismatic healing practices, scripture to read, prayers to14300:06:41.220 --> 00:06:44.180pray, and God used those.14400:06:44.320 --> 00:06:46.780He didn't use them in a way that,14500:06:47.180 --> 00:06:48.900you know, I woke up one morning and14600:06:48.900 --> 00:06:51.520all of my issues were gone.14700:06:51.820 --> 00:06:54.000The road to healing was long, and it14800:06:54.000 --> 00:06:57.300was painful, and there were many times where14900:06:57.300 --> 00:07:00.420I thought I'd really—I really wish I'd never15000:07:00.420 --> 00:07:03.560prayed for healing because actually life in bondage15100:07:03.560 --> 00:07:06.100seems a lot better than the healing process,15200:07:06.120 --> 00:07:10.980which was to walk through the pain that15300:07:10.980 --> 00:07:14.760caused me to find myself in the place15400:07:14.760 --> 00:07:15.480that I was.15500:07:15.660 --> 00:07:18.480But I assure you, in the end, the15600:07:18.480 --> 00:07:21.980freedom that we receive from healing is amazing.15700:07:22.120 --> 00:07:25.560What God really does is He uses that15800:07:25.560 --> 00:07:26.620to turn us out as servants.15900:07:26.900 --> 00:07:29.860So, what changed about me is that no16000:07:29.860 --> 00:07:32.340longer were food and exercise the most important16100:07:32.340 --> 00:07:32.840things.16200:07:33.220 --> 00:07:37.080They became just part of being a human16300:07:37.080 --> 00:07:37.420being.16400:07:37.600 --> 00:07:39.040We must take care of ourself, and we16500:07:39.040 --> 00:07:41.720eat healthy, and we get some exercise.16600:07:42.360 --> 00:07:45.000And instead, our time is spent in service16700:07:45.000 --> 00:07:47.820to our neighbor, and that is freedom.16800:07:48.300 --> 00:07:50.340It's not freedom that I can just stand16900:07:50.340 --> 00:07:51.640up and say, I think I'll do that17000:07:51.640 --> 00:07:51.940today.17100:07:51.980 --> 00:07:53.900That's freedom that comes through Christ.17200:07:54.460 --> 00:07:57.280And so, I share my story because I17300:07:57.280 --> 00:07:59.980just think it's really important to see that17400:07:59.980 --> 00:08:02.880no matter if you're a Christian or if17500:08:02.880 --> 00:08:06.020you're not a Christian, we cannot free ourselves17600:08:06.020 --> 00:08:07.740from the power of sin.17700:08:07.920 --> 00:08:09.480That must come through Jesus.17800:08:10.160 --> 00:08:11.900And if sin is a little bit of17900:08:11.900 --> 00:08:15.460an uncomfortable word, we cannot free ourselves from18000:08:15.460 --> 00:08:18.320the bondage that we're in as human beings.18100:08:18.320 --> 00:08:22.720It's a result of not being in a18200:08:22.720 --> 00:08:26.260relationship with God as He intended at creation.18300:08:26.540 --> 00:08:28.900And that comes from the very beginning with18400:08:28.900 --> 00:08:32.320Adam and Eve, and that trickles down into18500:08:32.320 --> 00:08:37.220our lives, and we experience that same distance18600:08:37.220 --> 00:08:39.860from God, the same need for salvation, the18700:08:39.860 --> 00:08:41.940need for renewal and transformation.18800:08:42.600 --> 00:08:45.900And as Christians, we're granted that in Jesus18900:08:45.900 --> 00:08:48.580Christ, and the Christian life is full of19000:08:48.580 --> 00:08:54.060trial and tribulation and may have long seasons19100:08:54.060 --> 00:08:54.540of addiction.19200:08:54.960 --> 00:08:59.740It may have seasons of divorce, of loss,19300:08:59.940 --> 00:09:03.000of things that we cannot break free from.19400:09:03.480 --> 00:09:07.100And we can be assured that in Christ,19500:09:07.400 --> 00:09:10.180God is at work, and we shouldn't be19600:09:10.180 --> 00:09:13.500afraid of these dark seasons because the Lord19700:09:13.500 --> 00:09:14.880has plans for them.19800:09:14.900 --> 00:09:16.560He has plans for them in your life.19900:09:16.880 --> 00:09:20.360And what I find when I meet people20000:09:20.360 --> 00:09:22.220who are interested in becoming an end-of20100:09:22.220 --> 00:09:24.960-life doula, or they've already began training in20200:09:24.960 --> 00:09:27.460my program, they have a story.20300:09:27.580 --> 00:09:30.660This is one of real tribulation, of real20400:09:30.660 --> 00:09:34.860bondage, and of shame, of the things that20500:09:34.860 --> 00:09:36.420we really don't want to talk about, but20600:09:36.420 --> 00:09:38.320that the Lord has reached into their life20700:09:38.320 --> 00:09:41.860and healed them and brought them forward into20800:09:41.860 --> 00:09:42.540a new life.20900:09:42.540 --> 00:09:45.940And so, I can say, honestly, that experience21000:09:45.940 --> 00:09:48.000for me was one of death and resurrection.21100:09:48.360 --> 00:09:51.120Death to the old self, the control, not21200:09:51.120 --> 00:09:54.380trusting God with my future, to the resurrection21300:09:54.380 --> 00:09:58.680of faith in that area that I couldn't21400:09:58.680 --> 00:09:59.920give my life to God.21500:10:00.180 --> 00:10:03.920And the Scripture says that when we follow21600:10:03.920 --> 00:10:06.020after Christ, we will lose our life, and21700:10:06.020 --> 00:10:07.680there is realness to that.21800:10:07.840 --> 00:10:12.000I'm still here physically very much, but my21900:10:12.000 --> 00:10:12.780life is different.22000:10:13.140 --> 00:10:16.200And I look back at those years, it22100:10:16.200 --> 00:10:18.900was 20 years for me, and the Lord22200:10:18.900 --> 00:10:21.240didn't just forget about them and chuck them22300:10:21.240 --> 00:10:22.600off to the side and say those don't22400:10:22.600 --> 00:10:22.860matter.22500:10:23.040 --> 00:10:26.160No, they fully form who I am and22600:10:26.160 --> 00:10:26.640my calling.22700:10:26.980 --> 00:10:30.600So, I encourage you to think about your22800:10:30.600 --> 00:10:32.360story from that perspective.22900:10:32.680 --> 00:10:37.460God has allowed seasons of the desert, of23000:10:37.460 --> 00:10:40.980wandering, of doubt, and He will not waste23100:10:40.980 --> 00:10:41.160it.23200:10:41.240 --> 00:10:42.600He will not say, oh, that was just23300:10:42.600 --> 00:10:44.220a time where her faith wasn't strong.23400:10:44.360 --> 00:10:47.100He actually will move right into that part23500:10:47.100 --> 00:10:49.380of your life and create faith in you.23600:10:50.080 --> 00:10:53.740You will experience freedom, and you will be23700:10:53.740 --> 00:10:54.720able to serve others.23800:10:54.880 --> 00:10:58.260God strongly used the death of my grandmother23900:10:58.260 --> 00:11:00.980to open my eyes to a new future.24000:11:01.420 --> 00:11:03.200Certainly not what I expected.24100:11:03.500 --> 00:11:06.800I wanted a much quicker healing.24200:11:07.660 --> 00:11:10.760I wanted to continue in the life that24300:11:10.760 --> 00:11:14.900I had without injury, without the feeling of24400:11:14.900 --> 00:11:15.500bondage.24500:11:15.820 --> 00:11:18.700But that life has been removed, and a24600:11:18.700 --> 00:11:20.900new life has been set in its place.24700:11:21.100 --> 00:11:23.620And so, that is why I'm here.24800:11:23.740 --> 00:11:27.440It's what has urged me to create a24900:11:27.440 --> 00:11:30.760training program for end-of-life doulas based25000:11:30.760 --> 00:11:32.340in Christian faith.25100:11:32.400 --> 00:11:33.760And it's not just a little bit about25200:11:33.760 --> 00:11:34.280Christian faith.25300:11:34.320 --> 00:11:35.720It's all about Christian faith.25400:11:36.660 --> 00:11:39.680And what shines so brightly in the program25500:11:39.680 --> 00:11:42.100is that there is something we're waiting for,25600:11:42.200 --> 00:11:43.400and it's really good news.25700:11:43.600 --> 00:11:45.820So, we know that Jesus is going to25800:11:45.820 --> 00:11:46.160return.25900:11:46.580 --> 00:11:48.340He's going to raise the dead from their26000:11:48.340 --> 00:11:51.100graves, and He is going to bring a26100:11:51.100 --> 00:11:52.400new heaven and a new earth.26200:11:52.600 --> 00:11:54.260But first, there is.26300:11:54.700 --> 00:11:57.780There's judgment, and that judgment sets things right.26400:11:58.220 --> 00:12:02.020And we as Christians are in Christ, and26500:12:02.020 --> 00:12:05.120so we are guaranteed eternal life in the26600:12:05.120 --> 00:12:06.420new heaven and the new earth.26700:12:06.600 --> 00:12:09.820We can see spaces where God truly is26800:12:09.820 --> 00:12:12.700at work, and He's truly transforming us into26900:12:12.700 --> 00:12:14.940the human being that we are meant to27000:12:14.940 --> 00:12:15.100be.27100:12:15.220 --> 00:12:18.520We are going to live in transformed bodies27200:12:18.520 --> 00:12:20.200in a new heaven and a new earth,27300:12:20.300 --> 00:12:21.960and we are not going to get tired.27400:12:22.260 --> 00:12:23.400We are not going to die.27500:12:23.500 --> 00:12:24.500We're not going to age.27600:12:24.740 --> 00:12:26.940We're going to fully live as stewards of27700:12:26.940 --> 00:12:29.340God's creation as He originally intended.27800:12:29.520 --> 00:12:32.580So, whatever sin has done in your life,27900:12:33.060 --> 00:12:35.340it is not for nothing.28000:12:35.620 --> 00:12:39.360God will use that to make something new28100:12:39.360 --> 00:12:40.940in your life, and you're already going to28200:12:40.940 --> 00:12:43.800be able to experience that here on this28300:12:43.800 --> 00:12:46.820earth as we wait for Jesus to come28400:12:46.820 --> 00:12:52.140back for the judgment, for the new heaven28500:12:52.140 --> 00:12:52.880and the new earth.28600:12:53.000 --> 00:12:54.920And what we really want to focus on28700:12:54.920 --> 00:12:58.140is that the dead in Christ have priority28800:12:58.140 --> 00:12:59.800when Jesus comes back.28900:12:59.920 --> 00:13:02.660The Scripture says in 1 Thessalonians 4, 1629000:13:02.660 --> 00:13:04.640that the dead in Christ will be raised29100:13:04.640 --> 00:13:05.060first.29200:13:05.360 --> 00:13:08.140That transforms how we look at end-of29300:13:08.140 --> 00:13:08.640-life care.29400:13:09.040 --> 00:13:12.520As we care for people, we see that29500:13:12.520 --> 00:13:15.860there is a resurrection ahead for them, and29600:13:15.860 --> 00:13:20.500that transforms how we care for the dying29700:13:20.500 --> 00:13:24.500people, how we relate to their caregivers, how29800:13:24.500 --> 00:13:26.220we relate to the wider community.29900:13:26.460 --> 00:13:27.620It makes a difference.30000:13:27.880 --> 00:13:31.180And how those who are not yet believers30100:13:31.860 --> 00:13:34.360come to know the good news that's ahead.30200:13:34.840 --> 00:13:37.400So, it's really important to have a training30300:13:37.400 --> 00:13:39.680program that is focused on end-of-life30400:13:39.680 --> 00:13:43.100doula care, a non-medical role at end30500:13:43.100 --> 00:13:43.480-of-life.30600:13:43.580 --> 00:13:45.900It's really important to have it Christ-centric.30700:13:46.120 --> 00:13:49.100It must be, based on the cross and30800:13:49.100 --> 00:13:50.240the hope of resurrection.30900:13:50.880 --> 00:13:52.480So, here I am.31000:13:52.660 --> 00:13:57.720I have built a really comprehensive training program.31100:13:58.060 --> 00:13:59.720I have a professional course, and I have31200:13:59.720 --> 00:14:02.020a volunteer course, depending on how you want31300:14:02.020 --> 00:14:02.820to get involved.31400:14:03.420 --> 00:14:06.940But setting out to create a training program31500:14:06.940 --> 00:14:08.440didn't go the way that I thought it31600:14:08.440 --> 00:14:08.660would.31700:14:08.820 --> 00:14:10.740I've enjoyed the way that it's gone.31800:14:10.840 --> 00:14:12.580Of course, I've met with some frustration.31900:14:13.100 --> 00:14:17.080It's actually really hard to be a solopreneur32000:14:17.080 --> 00:14:21.120and come up with all the ideas and32100:14:21.120 --> 00:14:22.520lead by yourself.32200:14:22.940 --> 00:14:25.640Thankfully, the Lord has provided me with really32300:14:25.640 --> 00:14:28.520great friends along the way and supportive people32400:14:28.520 --> 00:14:33.220enrolled inside my training program who thank me32500:14:33.220 --> 00:14:34.460and say, this works.32600:14:34.580 --> 00:14:35.780Maybe this is a little bit hard to32700:14:35.780 --> 00:14:36.220understand.32800:14:36.360 --> 00:14:39.120So, it really has become a collaborative effort32900:14:39.120 --> 00:14:40.480at the end of the day.33000:14:41.060 --> 00:14:43.620If you go on social media, it says,33100:14:43.840 --> 00:14:47.700oh, put your training program up online and33200:14:47.700 --> 00:14:48.920make money while you sleep.33300:14:49.120 --> 00:14:51.360I just want to tell you that that's33400:14:51.360 --> 00:14:52.220not what it's like.33500:14:53.560 --> 00:14:59.180When you involve people in your grand idea,33600:15:00.060 --> 00:15:03.160it takes effort, and it takes work, and33700:15:03.160 --> 00:15:06.600it takes collaboration, and beauty comes from that.33800:15:06.720 --> 00:15:08.200So, I don't want anyone to think that33900:15:08.200 --> 00:15:10.540embarking on something like this is something that34000:15:10.540 --> 00:15:12.480you could take on as an island.34100:15:12.800 --> 00:15:14.840There's no true beauty in that.34200:15:14.920 --> 00:15:17.180It's great when God gives us a vision,34300:15:17.500 --> 00:15:19.520and then He provides the resources to help34400:15:19.520 --> 00:15:20.520us carry it out.34500:15:21.000 --> 00:15:23.440Believe it or not, one of the biggest34600:15:23.440 --> 00:15:26.740challenges, as well as blessings, has been technology.34700:15:27.280 --> 00:15:31.920Technology means that I can include people from34800:15:31.920 --> 00:15:35.820South Africa and Australia, Canada, just naming a34900:15:35.820 --> 00:15:38.560few countries that I have gotten to know35000:15:38.560 --> 00:15:38.880people.35100:15:39.060 --> 00:15:41.300They've either joined the training program or joined35200:15:41.300 --> 00:15:42.820the International Fellowship Cafe.35300:15:43.340 --> 00:15:44.920It opens up the world to be able35400:15:44.920 --> 00:15:47.140to use a platform such as Zoom to35500:15:47.140 --> 00:15:47.960host meetings.35600:15:49.020 --> 00:15:51.500Online training, I use Convene Communities.35700:15:51.680 --> 00:15:52.780It's an all-in-one platform.35800:15:53.340 --> 00:15:55.280We can go from training to actually owning35900:15:55.280 --> 00:15:57.720and running a business on the same platform,36000:15:57.720 --> 00:15:58.520which I love.36100:15:58.660 --> 00:16:01.540There are opportunities for other fellowship groups to36200:16:01.540 --> 00:16:05.500join and collaborate outside of training and be36300:16:05.500 --> 00:16:09.060supported by certified death and resurrection doulas.36400:16:09.340 --> 00:16:09.880But you know what?36500:16:09.960 --> 00:16:10.860Technology's hard.36600:16:11.280 --> 00:16:13.900Your phone doesn't always work, or your laptop36700:16:13.900 --> 00:16:16.880is doing something, or you can't always find36800:16:16.880 --> 00:16:19.060the Zoom link and it's time to jump36900:16:19.060 --> 00:16:19.380on.37000:16:19.840 --> 00:16:23.180So, technology has been a hurdle, but also37100:16:23.180 --> 00:16:25.020a blessing, as I said, because it allows37200:16:25.020 --> 00:16:27.420us to be together and to record calls37300:16:27.420 --> 00:16:29.840and share them on YouTube and all of37400:16:29.840 --> 00:16:30.180that.37500:16:30.520 --> 00:16:33.420I don't want anyone to feel that their37600:16:33.420 --> 00:16:36.980story is something that might keep them out37700:16:36.980 --> 00:16:40.780of joining this community, whether it's not dramatic37800:16:40.780 --> 00:16:43.300enough or maybe it has too many areas37900:16:43.300 --> 00:16:44.080that feel shameful.38000:16:44.520 --> 00:16:47.520No, your story is your story, and it's38100:16:47.520 --> 00:16:51.200what makes God's call on your life so38200:16:51.200 --> 00:16:52.620meaningful and valuable.38300:16:53.500 --> 00:16:57.860And technology, something not to dismiss, because even38400:16:57.860 --> 00:17:00.500though it comes with complications some days, it38500:17:00.500 --> 00:17:02.560also gives us a lot of benefit.38600:17:02.860 --> 00:17:05.140And I've actually found that part of the38700:17:05.140 --> 00:17:07.420ministry is actually helping people with their technology.38800:17:07.560 --> 00:17:10.020That was something I never thought about when38900:17:10.020 --> 00:17:11.560I set out to build this training program.39000:17:11.740 --> 00:17:14.819Different theological views is another area that can39100:17:14.819 --> 00:17:16.319sometimes get a little bit tense.39200:17:16.460 --> 00:17:19.119We should all be able to come together39300:17:19.119 --> 00:17:22.480in the hope of resurrection and in the39400:17:22.480 --> 00:17:23.380truth of the cross.39500:17:23.540 --> 00:17:25.240And even if we differ a little bit39600:17:25.240 --> 00:17:28.240on baptism as an infant or as an39700:17:28.240 --> 00:17:30.560adult, or if our views differ on the39800:17:30.560 --> 00:17:33.660exact nature of Christ's return, we can still39900:17:33.660 --> 00:17:37.980look towards the cross together, look towards the40000:17:37.980 --> 00:17:41.500resurrection together, and make an impact, a movement40100:17:41.500 --> 00:17:44.500of resurrection hope in the body of Christ.40200:17:44.800 --> 00:17:50.040This concept may ring familiar to you, may40300:17:50.040 --> 00:17:53.000ring familiar, but you don't know a lot40400:17:53.000 --> 00:17:53.440about it.40500:17:53.560 --> 00:17:57.760The early Christians, they focused on the return40600:17:57.760 --> 00:17:58.300of Christ.40700:17:58.560 --> 00:18:00.780I just want to share that there is40800:18:00.780 --> 00:18:03.840nothing that can keep you from answering the40900:18:03.840 --> 00:18:06.320call to God, to share your story, to41000:18:06.320 --> 00:18:09.340be a servant, to pick up a device,41100:18:09.440 --> 00:18:13.900a computer, or a laptop, or a phone,41200:18:14.120 --> 00:18:15.900and get involved in fellowship.41300:18:16.260 --> 00:18:20.600Consider going further than that and serving in41400:18:20.600 --> 00:18:24.000your church for aging community members or someone41500:18:24.000 --> 00:18:25.880who's nearing the end of their life.41600:18:26.000 --> 00:18:29.020There is a place for everybody, and God41700:18:29.020 --> 00:18:30.060is at work.41800:18:30.800 --> 00:18:34.440He's bringing us together, and He is making41900:18:34.440 --> 00:18:37.320it important in the 21st century that we42000:18:37.320 --> 00:18:39.660look at end-of-life care from a42100:18:39.660 --> 00:18:40.940gospel-centered perspective.42200:18:40.940 --> 00:18:43.300He's making it important in your life, He's42300:18:43.300 --> 00:18:45.820making it important in mine, in a wider42400:18:45.820 --> 00:18:49.080community, the death and resurrection doula community, and42500:18:49.080 --> 00:18:51.960I know that He has plans for the42600:18:51.960 --> 00:18:55.680body of Christ to look to Him, look42700:18:55.680 --> 00:18:57.900to the truth of His word, and to42800:18:57.900 --> 00:19:02.960anticipate His return, a timely return where the42900:19:02.960 --> 00:19:05.380dead will be raised, and the Lord will43000:19:05.380 --> 00:19:07.220make all things right, and there will be43100:19:07.220 --> 00:19:08.820a new heaven and a new earth, and43200:19:08.820 --> 00:19:13.040we will steward that new creation as image43300:19:13.040 --> 00:19:16.580bearers of Christ, and dwelt with His Spirit,43400:19:17.020 --> 00:19:20.220and there will be no more dying and43500:19:20.220 --> 00:19:24.420crying and pain, there will be mutual love43600:19:24.420 --> 00:19:27.420for one another, there will not be injustices,43700:19:27.520 --> 00:19:30.320the things that we experience today.43800:19:31.000 --> 00:19:34.100God will not waste any of these experiences,43900:19:34.360 --> 00:19:37.560but He is making them into something much44000:19:37.560 --> 00:19:42.480more grand for us in His new creation.